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Seven Elephants Founder Fabian Gasmia Talks ‘Treasure’ & Constructing Biz


Welcome to Deadline’s Worldwide Disruptors, a function the place we shine a highlight on key executives and corporations outdoors of the U.S. shaking up the offshore market. This week we’re speaking to main German producer Fabian Gasmia, whose credit embrace Olivier Assayas’ Private Shopper, Leos Carax’s Annette and, extra not too long ago, Lena Dunham and Stephen Fry starrer Treasure, which has its North American premiere at Tribeca final weekend. Gasmia, who arrange manufacturing banner Seven Elephants in 2018 with administrators Julia von Heinz, Erik Schmitt and David Wnendt, talks us by way of constructing that outfit, his “particular relationship” with France and why he thinks German cinema is having a “renaissance.”

Worldwide relationships are proving extra important than ever in what’s now a fragile and economically strained unbiased movie market and Fabian Gasmia is proving to be a European accomplice with clout. The German producer, who not too long ago produced Lena Dunham and Stephen Fry character drama Treasure, which premiered on the Berlin Movie Competition earlier this yr and is about to launch in U.S. and UK theatres on Friday, has quietly develop into certainly one of Europe’s main unbiased producers and co-production companions.

No stranger to the pageant circuit, Gasmia has a raft of top-notch European indie tasks below his belt having co-produced tasks corresponding to Cannes Competitors entries Private Shopper from Olivier Assayas and Nuri Bilge Ceylan’s The Wild Pear Tree in addition to Cannes 2021 opener Annette from helmer Leox Carax. These had been made by way of his earlier banner DETAiLFILM, which he based in 2007 with fellow German producer Henning Kamm, whom he met whereas learning on the prestigious Atelier Ludwigsburg-Paris publish graduate program for worldwide productions. That firm additionally co-produced Mia Hansen-Løve’s Berlin Silver Bear-winner Issues to Come. Whereas Kamm and Gasmia have since amicably parted methods, it’s a relationship that Gasmia says “he’ll always remember.” 

“Discovering superb companions to work with long run is essential to me,” says Gasmia, who can also be the German accomplice for Zentropa’s Hamburg outpost. “Once I was considering of what to do subsequent, I noticed that just about all the thrilling administrators in Germany that I knew at the moment and who I actually wished to work with all had their very own firm. I knew that if I fished in that pond, it wouldn’t essentially be the suitable technique to do it, so I made a decision to do it with extra of a world method.”

In 2018, Gasmia teamed up with German administrators Julia von Heinz, Erik Schmitt and David Wnendt to launch Seven Elephants, a Berlin-based manufacturing firm that was impressed by fellow Berlin banner X Filme Inventive Pool. The purpose was to unite artistic manufacturing and directing expertise below one roof.

“I had made an inventory of administrators that I adored for his or her boldness in creativity and uncompromising emotion they might set off in cinema, one thing that I discover crucial,” he says. “And that record got here all the way down to Julia, Erik and David.” 

Von Heinz was recognized for her tasks Nothing Else IssuesHanni and Nanni 2 and I’m Off Then, the latter two taking $5.7M and $15.2M in Germany respectively whereas Wnendt was reputed for his coming-of-age film Wetlands, which premiered in Sundance in 2014, in addition to Hitler satire Look Who’s Again. Schmitt, on the time, was recognized for his intensive brief movie catalogue and whose movies had been chosen at greater than 300 festivals. 

David Wnendt, Fabian Gasmia, Erik Schmitt, Julia von Heinz of Seven Elephants

The primary movie out of the Seven Elephants gate can be Von Heinz’s drama And Tomorrow the Whole World, which premiered on the 2020 Venice Movie Competition and was later chosen as Germany’s official submission for the Worldwide Oscar. 

Since then, the corporate has gone on to make movies corresponding to Wnendt’s Solar and Concrete, an adaptation of the bestselling novel by Felix Lobrecht, which premiered at Berlinale Particular in 2023 and Treasure, which marked Von Heinz’s English-language debut and premiered in Berlin this yr. Gasmia produces the venture with Heinz for Seven Elephants together with Dunham for Good Factor Going Productions whereas co-producers are Haiku Movies, Kings&Queens Filmproduktion and Lava Movies. 

Bleecker Road is releasing the latter theatrically within the U.S. on June 14 and Glen Basner’s FilmNation has been representing worldwide gross sales on that venture. “They’ve been actually nice companions and knew precisely easy methods to place this movie,” says Gasmia. 

Private treasure

For Gasmia, Treasure is a very particular and private venture. The movie, which is about in 1991, sees Holocaust survivor and father (Fry) and cussed daughter (Dunham) reunite, reconcile and chart a course for Poland to go to the daddy’s household house the second the iron curtain falls. When the venture was delivered to him at script stage (Von Heinz writes with John Quester and Lily Brett), Gasmia recollects reflecting on his personal father – an Algerian struggle refugee who fled to Europe – when studying it. On the time, he had simply began Seven Elephants and that very same yr his father had sadly handed away.

“I used to be struck by the themes that had been similar to my very own biography,” says Gasmia. “It’s a couple of daughter who doesn’t get any solutions from her father about the place she comes from and that felt very acquainted to me. My father by no means stated a single phrase about Algeria. He simply stated, ‘No, let’s look ahead, let’s transfer on.’ And the principle character Ruth [Dunham] was coping with the identical vacancy – she is aware of her dad survived the Holocaust and he’s from Poland however that’s about it.” 

He continues: “What actually drew me to the venture was that it’s not solely very touching and really profound, but additionally you’ll be able to smile and chortle on the similar time and that’s one thing Julia von Heinz is so good at. It’s very arduous getting the correct mix of drama and comedy with out it feeling awkward and I feel she’s the perfect within the German-language world to do this.” 

Having Dunham and Fry signal as much as the European arthouse unbiased movie was, he says, a testomony to the fabric. Treasure can also be one of many few tasks that has ever been permitted to shoot in Auschwitz and even with Fry and Dunham aboard, he admits financing the venture was a problem at time. However structuring it as a German-French co-production (one thing the producer is well-versed in), meant the $9M venture was in a position to lean into each German and French finance programs. “They really did a fantastic job,” he says. “Collectively, each programs accounted for greater than 80% of the price range.” 

It’s a mannequin that Gasmia feels assured will prevail within the unbiased movie enviornment – movies which might be focused to native audiences however that even have international scale. “As a result of the movies we make are uncompromising, that’s a fantastic ingredient. It’s not sufficient to simply cater to your house market – you want to have the ability to cater to different markets and this comes from nice storytelling.” 

Developing, Seven Elephants not too long ago introduced two new tasks: Athos 2646 from director Wnendt and The Lifetime of Needs, set to be directed by Schmitt

Primarily based on Nils Westerboer’s award-winning novel, Athos 2646 is an formidable venture which Wnendt will write and direct and is about within the distant future, the place a mysterious crime unfolds on the lonely Neptune moon of Athos. A synthetic intelligence answerable for life help is suspected of homicide and an inquisitor specializing in AI is shipped to unravel the case. Seven Elephants is producing the venture, which is backed by German big Constantin Movie. 

German actor Matthias Schweighöfer (who not too long ago starred in Oscar-winning title Oppenheimer) is about to star in The Lifetime of Needs, a venture primarily based on Thomas Glavinic’s best-selling novel Das Leben Der Wuensche. It follows a disillusioned household man who’s misplaced in a world the place extra is all the time higher. When given the ability to grant his each want, he quickly turns into confronted together with his personal darkish and unconscious needs. Pantaleon Movies and ProU Producers United Movie will produce with Seven Elephants will co-producing the venture with SevenPictures Movie. 

“With all of our movies, we wish to be sure that all of them one way or the other have the identical values and due to this fact one way or the other the identical id,” he says. “At our core, we are sometimes political, however it’s all the time story first.” 

Ruth ( Lena Dunham) , Edek ( Stephen Fry ), ‘Treasure’

German Renaissance and French ties

Whereas Gasmia is cognizant of the challenges dealing with unbiased producers with shrinking budgets coupled with sharp inflation requiring producers “to do extra with much less”, however he’s optimistic of the place he sits within the international indie puzzle and factors to the being primarily based in Germany as an actual plus level within the present market. 

“Germany has nice instruments, and they’re about to develop into even higher,” says Gasmia. “By early subsequent yr, our complete funding system might be overhauled and develop into simpler. And whereas cash is in fact essential – particularly within the unbiased movie world, which is drying up quickly – we even have nice groups who’re used to engaged on large Hollywood blockbusters. And we will do smaller movies on a price range. For instance, when you’ve received a movie with a fantastic IP or nice screenplay at say, $4M or $5M, then typically you solely want to search out $1M or $2M and we will discover the remainder of it.” 

He factors to large manufacturers like Studio Babelsberg and a “nice sense of artistic freedom” in German as being interesting for American and worldwide expertise. “Germany is so welcoming to folks within the enterprise and with all the things we do right here, we study higher. We serve no matter is required to be served and with each director that’s utilizing that system and mixing that system with American expertise and worldwide expertise, we develop into robust.” 

He provides: “I feel the Renaissance of German cinema is one way or the other coming. In 1927 and 1928 there was an enormous increase of leisure within the German world after which, for causes everyone knows, folks left.” 

Moreover, Gasmia has a powerful tie to France and French cinema. He spent childhood summers in France, is married to a French girl and his father, as he would later discover out, was born in France. “I discover this weirdly fascinating as a result of I might really feel his battle with France all of his life and that we wished to be part of it, however he clearly wasn’t.” 

For him, this cultural tie to France is one thing he cherishes deeply and final yr, Gasmia was elected to be the President of the Franco-German Movie Academy. “I really feel a duty for the friendship of those two nations.”

Certainly, two of the three movies which have come out of the Seven Elephants banner have been minority French co-productions (And Tomorrow the Whole World and Treasure). With out his French accomplice, Thomas Jaeger at Paris-based outfit Haiku Movies, he says he “wouldn’t have been in a position to shut the financing of those movies and it provides me goosebumps after I see these movies now.” 

Wanting forward, Gasmia is optimistic of the place Seven Elephants and the indie movie recreation is headed. “I see this as a fantastic likelihood. There’s a re-shift taking place available in the market and I feel firms that survive this may survive for a few years to come back. We have to keep in mind to be really revolutionary and playful and never neglect that we aren’t doing this for our egos or our funds – we’re doing this to marvel audiences.” 

Treasure hits U.S. and UK theatres on June 14.

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